Party IDs and Historical Names

[BobBorges]

I'm condensing archived issues from the old repo to here. We need:

• 1. our own IDs for parties:
•       1.1 create IDs (contemporary name -- 1ID per party / name)
•       1.2 propose wikidata property : here
•       1.3 replace Q-IDs with SWERIK party IDs
• 2. Test MP affiliations are contemporary
• 3. Test party existence

welfare-state-analytics/riksdagen-corpus#379
welfare-state-analytics/riksdagen-corpus#375
welfare-state-analytics/riksdagen-corpus#191
welfare-state-analytics/riksdagen-corpus#235
welfare-state-analytics/riksdagen-corpus#478

[BobBorges]

@salgo60 Magnus, do you know who to ping on wikidata to get some action under a proposal in organizations?

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/SWERIK_Party_ID

[salgo60]

The sad answer WD is a very very small community but do as you do now pinging me I am not updated but I feel less and less people works with Wikidata, heard a small rumour that it has a scaling challenge.... I also read import from the Swedish "Riksdagens" is not done as some of the more active persons Popperipopp is not active at all, my activity is more Mapillary see current WD activity

• you have different communities more or less active you can ping
  • Wikidata:WikiProject every politician
    

• Social science WikiProjects
• Wikidata:Project_chat
• Wikidata is 12 years this week and celebrating. Maybe be active and have a talk/article what you do to get more interest and maybe find other people interested in the same area...

• maybe add something on sv:Wikipedia Wikipedia:Wikidatafrågor

• there are also some Telegram groups for wikidata but I am not active there anymore I am more a Mapillary person now....

• you have a Swedish Wikidata meeting sundays that you can be part in Wikidata:Events/Swedish_online_editathon

  • looks like they need support to upload documents maybe you can do something together as user Popperipopp is less active who did it before 20 October 2024
    Hur gör vi med uppladdning av nya motioner och andra nya riksdagsdokument? Vi förstår oss tyvärr inte på det skript som Popperipopp lagt upp. Andra metoder är mycket tidskrävande, och kan med mänsklig faktor ge fel i datat. Kanske kan vi ha ett videosamtal med överlämning?

• your proposal is added to next Wikidata:Status_updates/2024_10_21

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I will add some comments on Wikidata:Property proposal/SWERIK Party ID my feeling its better if you use the property you already have also for parties, political alignment Property:P1387, electoral symbol P12650, P1142 political ideology / occupation / all UML cases you have that involves external research projects archives needs identifiers / all sources need persistent identifiers when you start with PROV and described by e.g, SPARQL bar chart / List - also communicate your opinion of the quality of sources need an echosystem - today we see just datasilos and a lot of work is redone....

Alvin was proposed as an identifier for persons but I changed it to all supported identifiers

I combined Alvins types into one WD property just to avoid creating more properties in WD

• my initial proposal for Alvin persons 21 april 2019 just for people that was approved and created 8 June 2019
• I did a bold change rather early 10 June 2019 to combine them so WD also supported person / organisation / record.... alvin-person:51952 / alvin-organisation:1049 / alvin-record:179727

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• my comments before about parties let me know if we should share screens 0735152802
• SPARQL https://w.wiki/7X6t properties used in WD for parties

SPARQL query

• SPARQL graph - Q29552 - Democratic Party

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• same query but NOT showing external identifiers SPARQL

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• try document and use SKOS see my try to get Skansen understand SKOS ( it failed ;-))

  • as the academic community is a very slow moving explain your thoughts see my tries
    • with Riksarkivet SBL source quality / #7 lack of person identifiers in family articles / as they just use textstring then have no data quality - how slow SBL is moving see [#53 dataset with text strings and no sources]
      • Riksarkivet has no ecosystem for managing sources, PROV for quality, or addressing conflicting facts from various sources(SBL dataset släpps 2024 Strings not Things salgo60/Svenskaforsamlingar#53) / #39 no echosystem for handling sources PROV or quality
    • my try to communicate with Umeå University Familia - the excuse why nut supporting linked data is that its a research infrastructure :sad: "CEDAR/DDB är framförallt en infrastruktur för forskning"

• also good properties are "different from P1889" / follows P155/ opposite of P461 / described by source P1343

[salgo60]

Did a small video

[salgo60]

• my vote is oppose
  • I believe you’re facing technical debt if external domains are required to establish new properties specifically for your platform as you develop and expand your information model.
  • also start use SKOS to describe how your data relates to other see my try with Skansen
    • as mentioned before research data without good PROV is less useful so I feel you have another technical debt that you dont support contradicting sources and the quality of those sources
      • also overtime classification is changing see how "vilde" was stated in early 1900 compared to 1985 in the book Tvåkammar-riksdagen 1867–1970

[salgo60]

replace Q-IDs with SWERIK party IDs

Suggestion: still have the Wikidata Q number in your data on the party object and have versioning an all party objects so we can see how it change and SKOS to tell the relation with your data and maybe also the trust of sources used

If someone would like to match your parties and have "same as" Wikidata then they will have easier to match your parties

also document "vilde"

• #139 the "mess" I have found in different sources at different time periods
  • I added "Focus list Välfärden analyserad" for objects that I feel need some care from project Riksdagen Corpus #39#issuecomment-1615943928 - list

[salgo60]

[salgo60]

• what to do in WD Property_talk:P12192#Change_of_this_external_identifier

[salgo60]

1. Changed status to withdrawn
2. Asked what else is needed see Wikidata:Project_chat#withdraw_a_property_proposal

[salgo60]

We want to represent the data as it is -- if party was called X at a certain time, it is an analytical decision to call X Y now because we think X and Y are the same. For this reason we created a successor tree and those who prefer to use Y for everything can do that.

I believe that significant changes, like two parties forming an alliance and beginning to work closely together, offer much more insight than simply tracking a name change. Such alliances can reshape political influence, strategies, and voter dynamics, making them more critical for analysis than a rebranding. In my view, these collaborative shifts reveal deeper and more meaningful transformations within the political landscape.

We have todays example were we have Tidö Agreement WD Q114660969 en that is a big change for all partiers part of it that I think should be reflected in your data

• english

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• svenska

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• chinese

To draw a parallel with individuals, consider how men typically retain their names throughout life, whereas women traditionally change their names upon marriage. Wouldn’t it make sense, then, to create new objects for every significant name change in a similar fashion? While these are not simple questions, the shift from “strings to things” in the world of linked data offers a promising way to handle such complexities. As Shakespeare put it, “What’s in a name?”—perhaps in data, quite a bit! This approach could enable a deeper, more traceable understanding of both identity and transformation.

• video Linked Open Data - What is it?
• video Tim Berners-Lee: The next Web of open, linked data
• video The History of Wikidata
  • Render the EU project to support knowledge diversity

[salgo60]

me WD banned so I cant help you any more see 27#issuecomment-2456263922