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where to find info on 'reason for status change' (genuine vs. nongenuine)? #59

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martijnvandepol opened this issue Oct 25, 2024 · 1 comment

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@martijnvandepol
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Good morning,
Thank you very much for creating this package and the new API v4 code, it is great!
My query: If a species changes status in a new assessment (e.g. from old status VU to new status EN), then the IUCN guidelines state that a reason for the status change has to be recorded. Particularly whether the change is genuine - for biological reasons- or non-genuine reasons -because of better data becoming available (for a list of example see https://nc.iucnredlist.org/redlist/content/attachment_files/2024-1_RL_Table_7_corrected_20240916.pdf).
I cannot find which rredlist function (either via API v3 or v4) could retrieve this information about the reason for status change. Am I overlooking something?
P.S. I noticed that it is also not visible on the IUCN website when you go to the red list page of a specific species in which this happened, for an example see https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/17460/22187711#external-data . This species was changed from EN to LC due to non-genuine reason, but I cannot see this recorded anywhere on the website.. So it could be that my query is not a rredlist issue, but a database issue for IUCN. However, this is rather crucial information as the vast majority of changes are non-genuine and thus looking at changes over time in a meaningful way is impossible without this key piece of information.
best wishes,
Martijn van de Pol

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willgearty commented Oct 25, 2024

Thanks for reaching out and I'm glad to hear the new version of the package is working well for you!

Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, this information is not currently available via the IUCN API. Perhaps @simon-tarr can speak to whether this information will be added in the future? It certainly sounds useful!

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