Renault Talisman config for ACC (adaptative cruise control)

[games12345]

Hello,
I hope someone can help me. I have an Renault Talisman Initale Paris with normal Cruise Control/Limiter.
I want to change it to ACC (adaptative cruise control).
I already have fitted the switch for ACC/Limiter and the steering wheel.
Now I only need the config to activate the acc, I cant find it.
It is the 160 dci R9M 452 with DW6 dual clutch gearbox.
The car has everything inside but it dont have glas rooftop, the acc and the winter package (heated steering wheel and headlight washer).
I hope someone can help me to activate the acc for my car.
Thank you
Sry for my english im from Germany

[dominicusmento]

Are you sure you have everything? Do you have sensor for ACC in the front logo and is the safe distance warning already available in your vehicle settings?

[games12345]

Yes I have distance warning and speed limit sign identification. Also lane Assist (it beebs if i leave lane without flasher).

[dominicusmento]

Ok, if you have Distance Warning (DW) working correctly then I believe you should be able to turn on ACC without a problem.
I have Lane Departure Warning (LDW) too in my Megane IV but it seems it uses different sensors than the DW as I haven't been able to turn the functionality on. After changing the DW setting to DW Present with Camera in ddt4all, I have successfully turned on the setting in the Rlink2. But after trying to turn it on in the RLink2 menu, it seems that the vehicle is aware (probably there is an exception in the code) that something is missing and it turns the setting to OFF by itself after 5-10 seconds. So I think it will be up to the sensor for DW if this will work on your vehicle.

1. You can find the management for your setting here: Tableu de bord -> Cluster_15-40_v3.30.02 -> Ecrans Configuration -> Conf Calculateurs -> UCEPresent_CF.Presence_ACC
   

2. While taking look at that, can you please look at: Tableu de bord -> Cluster_15-40_v3.30.02 -> Ecrans Configuration -> Conf Prestations VEH -> DW_CF? Is it set to the Radar or Camera option?
   

Good luck, and if you do enable the ACC successfully, be careful when using it. By default you have to be aware of the situation at all times as system may disengage itself and leave the reaction to the driver when it's not sure what to do or it has to brake more than 1/3 of the vehicle's braking capacity. It's by design.

Edit: you can also find both ACC and DW options under Audio -> RadNav v2.3 -> Configuration -> ECU Configuration part II -> ADAS presence

[Banana009]

Do you think it would be possible to activate ACC on Scenic IV? I have a radar because I have a DW. Unfortunately, I do not have a button on the steering wheel for ACC to set the distance of the vehicle in front. I do not think it's necessary?
I tried it in these units, but without success. Car says AEBS is not available:-(

[dominicusmento]

Hi,
maybe you can. I think this is not the model dependent, but I think there still may be a hardware which has to be activated or is missing in your vehicle.. Regarding the distance button, I think it is not neccessary.
I would give a try with FCW setting in the second picture you've attached and see what it can enable..

It will invoke "Active braking" item in a driving assistance menu in the Rlink2 and maybe give you the possibility to activate the AEBS.. Be extra careful because you are actually messing with critical systems in a vehicle. Remember also that this is all at your responsibility.

[Banana009]

I have activated AEBS. Unfortunately, when I try to activate the ACC, the vehicle reports that the AEBS is not available and ACC does not work. The system probably detects an absent button on the steering wheel.
It's a pity, because all components are present, except the button. Perhaps we need to set the steering wheel type somewhere...?

[games12345]

I have done everything you write. But everytime I start the car I get the error message Active braking off. I think there should be an other acc switch in other computers. I found one in the variable damper adjustment ecu.

Also I find in injection ecu EDC17C84_170B_780_7J0_830_8F0_A50_C00_V02_20170106T133042 this

But I dont find a way to write in injection ecu. I dont find the option I have marked.

Another question: Why I only have the marked buttons in data editor, not if I am connected to the car?

Hope you can help me.
Thank you

[Banana009]

Try to press the start button but not the pedals!! After that you can read/write more ECUs

[games12345]

I know how to activate ignition permanently.
I mean i dont find the Option in ddt4all

[Banana009]

I think you have the opposite problem, you got a button on the steering wheel and you need to activate it, right?
Did you change the steering wheel? What do you mean switch for ACC/Limiter?

[games12345]

Yes I Need to activate button on the steering wheel.
I mean The Button under the Parking Break. I send Photos later

[Banana009]

Now, I know what do you mean, but this buton is the same for ACC and normal cruise control.
Do you have all cables for distance buton on the steering wheel?
Do you have a picture of how the steering wheel looks with a button and without a button like?
It seems that activation of the ACC will be more complicated, because the same problem is with the distance button and no button.

[games12345]

Sure i have all Cables. I replaced it because of heated steering wheel. I replaced the switches for wipers and lights/flasher too.

[Banana009]

There is no problem with activation of heating?
I'm afraid that to activate the ACC will need something else in the steering (brake).

[games12345]

Heating works very well

[LELLO-67]

Yes I know you are right

[msuhaibs]

@Banana009 Thanks for highlighting the potential problem. I have a 2016, automatic Kadjar with cruise control and lane departure warning (with windscreen camera for lane and sign recognition). Though I would be interested in retro-fitting one or more of the features like ACC (Adaptive Cruise Control), LKA (Lane Keep Assist) and AEB (Automatic Emergency Braking), but I do not want to end up in spending money and time only to find out that it cannot be finished without dealer hardware/ software facilities.
@LELLO-67, @piter373 thank for your input. If you think that any of the above mentioned features are possible by installing right hardware and DDT4ALL, then I would be interested.

[Banana009]

For your Kadjar is not possible to activate LKA. ACC is impossible without assitance official CanClip connected to Renault server.
Don't waste your time and money with this better way is buy a new car 😀😀👍👍

[iulianmara]

That's mean that official Renault servive can do that right?

[Banana009]

No, only unofficially. Just smart friend who knows how to do it😜

[rzv86]

@rzv86 Hi, did you manage to successfully install acc / aeb in your Kadjar?

Hello. I never installed it on my kadjar. Even if I had the posibility of purchasing all the parts I needed, I had to give up because I don't have the programing software and access to a Renault server to connect to.
Have a nice day and good luck to you!

[msuhaibs]

Thank you all for your candid feedback. Not worth spending time and money then.

[iulianmara]

@rzv86 Hi, did you manage to successfully install acc / aeb in your Kadjar?

Hello. I never installed it on my kadjar. Even if I had the posibility of purchasing all the parts I needed, I had to give up because I don't have the programing software and access to a Renault server to connect to.

Have a nice day and good luck to you!

I talked with somebody yesterday and told me that if I install the ACC button on the steering wheel and I have the VIN number of a car identical with mine but with ACC active he can remap the car on that VIN number and everything will work perfectly. Now I need a VIN of a Talisman Initaile Paris 1.6 TCe EDC with ACC 😅

[msuhaibs]

@iulianmara Good to hear that. Look forward to receiving your future updates. I assume same technique would also be applicable for AEB.

[iulianmara]

@iulianmara Good to hear that. Look forward to receiving your future updates. I assume same technique would also be applicable for AEB.

Not sure if is that easy for AEB. I mean, you have to do more operations on tge car. Need to install radar, calibrate radar, install camera in tge windshield, install steering wheel control and maybe more. So, I'm not sure if is worth the work for that. 😅

[Furtif]

it's amazing they ask questions like problems are solved, and they don't close

[Furtif]

if other questions uses https://github.com/cedricp/ddt4all/discussions

[sdade86]

Какой программатор и софт у вас есть?

У меня есть flex

Hi, if you haven't solved the engine control unit configuration yet, I might have found something. if you send me the flash we can try

[Gambakg]

@Banana009 I've just read you were able to activate aebs can you please explain how? I have a Megane IV where I've installed the radar, the DW is working ok but after activating aebs in cluster and abs ECU it gives me the error bellow. Can you tell me what parameters did you changed?

Also regarding the ACC I have a friend in Renault and he told me the only way to activate engine ECU with that parameter is to get a car with the same engine and with ACC make it start a reprog and before you hit start change to your car. This way you will cheat the system and reprog his ECU on yours giving you the ACC.

I manage to get the AEBS working, now only ACC is missing. My question is this. Apparently you really need to program the ACC feature in Injection ECU, can this be done having only a VIN from a car with same motor and ACC enabled? How to do it with Can Clip? The only method I know of is to force a reprog in the car that has ACC and after hitting start switch over to your car and the Can Clip will reprog your car with other cars settings.

@logic7986 Did you manage to reprog via Clip? Ihave a donor VIN that has the same motor and ACC, is there a way to force clip to reprog with that vin?

Hi, I have the same problem with Megane 4 after installing radar. When I start the car showing me active braking is disconnected. Can you please tell me how to activate AEBS? Thanks

[Guigui63118]

Salut, si tu connais quelqu'un capable de reprogrammer l'écu injection pour activer l'adaptive cruse control, moi je sais comment trouver un vin identique à ton vehicule mais avec l'acc activé. Je t'échange l'info contre une reprog de la mienne...😉

[AlexMandrik005]

Hello, I have the opposite case. On the Espace V 1.6 TCe the radar unit is from another car that had ACC. My car doesn't have ACC. DW works, but active braking does not. The message "Active braking disabled" appears on the screen. Is it possible to solve this problem using ddt4all?

[LELLO-67]

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[LELLO-67]

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