what next in Qt-DAB #231

JvanKatwijk · 2021-08-01T14:17:14Z

JvanKatwijk
Aug 1, 2021
Maintainer

Qt-DAB 4.0 seems reasonably complere. Is there anything that you want me to implement as addon?

andimik · 2021-08-03T17:36:22Z

andimik
Aug 3, 2021

eti input

Well, in the past you have had a simple eti-frontend and eti-backend.

For example this commit

https://github.com/JvanKatwijk/eti-stuff/tree/3042ebe31459173262f296993729d0c3481491e4

I remember that it was working quite well and you might reuse your code to allow Qt-DAB to load an eti file directly.

Dutch translation

I guess there are a lot of fans using your software speaking Dutch ... You are the best translator ...

For German I'll check if all texts are being translated...

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JvanKatwijk · 2021-08-08T08:50:15Z

JvanKatwijk
Aug 8, 2021
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Hi Andreas You mean revive the eti backend with qt-dab code? Integrating an eti backend with the Qt-DAB GUI is pretty hard, recreating the eti-backend with the Qt-DAB code can be considered. Op di 3 aug. 2021 om 19:36 schreef andimik ***@***.***>:

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eti input Well, in the past you have had a simple eti-frontend and eti-backend. For example this commit https://github.com/JvanKatwijk/eti-stuff/tree/3042ebe31459173262f296993729d0c3481491e4 I remember that it was working quite well and you might reuse your code to allow Qt-DAB to load an eti file directly. Dutch translation I guess there are a lot of fans using your software speaking Dutch ... You are the best translator ... For German I'll check if all texts are being translated... — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQAOOCUCRQPPOVNCLSLT3ASKBANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&utm_campaign=notification-email> .

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andimik · 2021-08-20T16:24:56Z

andimik
Aug 20, 2021

Another idea:

A timer for recording frames dump.

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JvanKatwijk · 2021-08-21T08:27:08Z

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Aug 21, 2021
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just to be more specific: for the currently selected service at time X the dump starts and at time Y the dump stops, where X and Y are specified times? or while Qt-DAB is running, select at time X service S and start dumping immediately until time Y when the dump stops and Qt-DAB remains decoding service S or at time X start Qt-DAB, select service S, start dumping immediately until time Y, after which Qt-DAB will halt Of course the third option is easier to implement using a dab-cmdline version of the program. Op vr 20 aug. 2021 om 18:25 schreef andimik ***@***.***>:

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JvanKatwijk · 2021-08-21T09:01:08Z

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Aug 21, 2021
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I just had a quick look The third option above is easy to implement, first adding a flag to example-5 causing the output to be written to a file rather than stdout (i.e. specifiying a filename in the command line), then using an "at" command with the specified time) and adding some timer to be able to specify the duration of the recording Op za 21 aug. 2021 om 10:26 schreef jan van katwijk ***@***.***

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: just to be more specific: for the currently selected service at time X the dump starts and at time Y the dump stops, where X and Y are specified times? or while Qt-DAB is running, select at time X service S and start dumping immediately until time Y when the dump stops and Qt-DAB remains decoding service S or at time X start Qt-DAB, select service S, start dumping immediately until time Y, after which Qt-DAB will halt Of course the third option is easier to implement using a dab-cmdline version of the program. Op vr 20 aug. 2021 om 18:25 schreef andimik ***@***.***>: > Another idea: > > A timer for recording frames dump. > > — > You are receiving this because you authored the thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#231 (comment)>, > or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQGWWG2IHL7CW2LDVELT5Z6WJANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> > . > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> > or Android > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&utm_campaign=notification-email> > . > -- Jan van Katwijk

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rohoog · 2021-10-27T18:31:51Z

rohoog
Oct 27, 2021

What about a web-frontend. Run the server on RPI, go there with the browser, select the station and play!
Sort of the DAB version of openwebrx.

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JvanKatwijk · 2021-10-28T13:16:54Z

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Oct 28, 2021
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If the GUI is sufficiently simple it is worthwhile to look into. It is then assumed that the server continues to run whenever the connection is lost Whenever a connection is established, the GUI will show the current state The GUI is minimal and has a selector for selecting a channel, if a list of services is shown (i.e. an ensemble is recognized), selecting a service is possible The dynamic label text is shown continuously if the browser is connected Assuming that the server has a soundcard and a speakerset, something for setting the gain is desirable Something has to be possible for setting the gain of the SDR device attached to the server Few years ago I had something like this with a bluetooth interface, but the control on a phone/tablet was not well designed. I'll give it a thoiught (but my HTML/javascript experience is virtually zero) Op wo 27 okt. 2021 om 20:32 schreef rohoog ***@***.***>:

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What about a web-frontend. Run the server on RPI, go there with the browser, select the station and play! Sort of the DAB version of openwebrx. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQHYLPMDZLYBNMHE3R3UJBHTFANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>.

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rohoog Nov 30, 2021

I meant sending the audio to the webbrowser, but using a webbrowser as remote control for the sound of the server could also be useful. The bandwidth rtl_tcp uses on the network is quite a challenge for average wifi, AAC compressed audio is a breeze for that. Most html5 browsers will happily decode and play AAC.

JvanKatwijk · 2021-12-01T09:17:50Z

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This is what it said in my mail to you: answering your question (oct 27) *If the GUI is sufficiently simple it is worthwhile to look into.* *It is then assumed that the server continues to run whenever the connection is lost* *Whenever a connection is established, the GUI will show the current state* *The GUI is minimal and has a selector for selecting a channel,* *if a list of services is shown (i.e. an ensemble is recognized), selecting a service is possible* *The dynamic label text is shown continuously if the browser is connected* *Assuming that the server has a soundcard and a speakerset, something for* *setting the gain is desirable* Op di 30 nov. 2021 om 23:57 schreef rohoog ***@***.***>:

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I meant sending the audio to the webbrowser, but using a webbrowser as remote control for the sound of the server could also be useful. The bandwidth rtl_tcp uses on the network is quite a challenge for average wifi, AAC compressed audio is a breeze for that. Most html5 browsers will happily decode and play AAC. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQBFSHP6C35NSKJZM73UOVJFXANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>.

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Ferrari2 · 2021-12-27T21:54:24Z

Ferrari2
Dec 27, 2021

Hi
Would it be possible to have a Windows 11 "setup.exe" file of the Qt-DAB-4.11 please.
Best regards
Bjarke

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JvanKatwijk · 2021-12-28T07:36:35Z

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Dec 28, 2021
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the windows installer in the releases section does not work on W11? Op ma 27 dec. 2021 om 22:54 schreef Ferrari2 ***@***.***>:

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Hi Would it be possible to have a Windows 11 "setup.exe" file of the Qt-DAB-4.11 please. Best regards Bjarke — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQFCTOMPRWXBAS4YGATUTDOBXANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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Ferrari2 · 2021-12-28T15:11:57Z

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Dec 28, 2021

Hi Jan I am struggling with Xming, as the free old version from 2017 won't run on my Windows 11... Would it be possible to have a .exe setup file rather than a .AppImage file for Windows 11 please? Best regards Bjarke Den tir. 28. dec. 2021 kl. 08.36 skrev JvanKatwijk ***@***.***

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: the windows installer in the releases section does not work on W11? Op ma 27 dec. 2021 om 22:54 schreef Ferrari2 ***@***.***>: > Hi > Would it be possible to have a Windows 11 "setup.exe" file of the > Qt-DAB-4.11 please. > Best regards > Bjarke > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > < #231 (comment) >, > or unsubscribe > < https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQFCTOMPRWXBAS4YGATUTDOBXANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ > > . > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > < https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675 > > or Android > < https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub >. > > You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: > ***@***.***> > -- Jan van Katwijk — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACADFE24CZLRJ7VPD55KO7TUTFSI3ANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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JvanKatwijk · 2021-12-28T15:17:07Z

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Dec 28, 2021
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there is an windows setup file in the releases section https://github.com/JvanKatwijk/qt-dab/releases setup-qt-dab-4.11.exe or 4.12 (the latter one is experimental) Op di 28 dec. 2021 om 16:12 schreef Ferrari2 ***@***.***>:

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Hi Jan I am struggling with Xming, as the free old version from 2017 won't run on my Windows 11... Would it be possible to have a .exe setup file rather than a .AppImage file for Windows 11 please? Best regards Bjarke Den tir. 28. dec. 2021 kl. 08.36 skrev JvanKatwijk ***@***.*** >: > the windows installer in the releases section does not work on W11? > > Op ma 27 dec. 2021 om 22:54 schreef Ferrari2 ***@***.***>: > > > Hi > > Would it be possible to have a Windows 11 "setup.exe" file of the > > Qt-DAB-4.11 please. > > Best regards > > Bjarke > > > > — > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > < > #231 (comment) > >, > > or unsubscribe > > < > https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQFCTOMPRWXBAS4YGATUTDOBXANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ > > > > . > > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > > < > https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675 > > > > or Android > > < > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub > >. > > > > You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: > > ***@***.***> > > > > > -- > Jan van Katwijk > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > < #231 (comment) >, > or unsubscribe > < https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACADFE24CZLRJ7VPD55KO7TUTFSI3ANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ > > . > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > < https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675 > > or Android > < https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub >. > > You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: > ***@***.***> > — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQBOT636F2B56YUTDITUTHHUPANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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Ferrari2 · 2021-12-28T16:16:03Z

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Dec 28, 2021

Hi again Jan I finally got it - under "Release Build". Fine business and thank you for the guidance :-) I would like to thank you so much for the very nice piece of software my friend. Happy new year to you and your Bjarke [image: image.png] Den tir. 28. dec. 2021 kl. 16.17 skrev JvanKatwijk ***@***.***

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: there is an windows setup file in the releases section https://github.com/JvanKatwijk/qt-dab/releases setup-qt-dab-4.11.exe or 4.12 (the latter one is experimental) Op di 28 dec. 2021 om 16:12 schreef Ferrari2 ***@***.***>: > Hi Jan > > I am struggling with Xming, as the free old version from 2017 won't run on > my Windows 11... > > Would it be possible to have a .exe setup file rather than a .AppImage file > for Windows 11 please? > > Best regards > Bjarke > > Den tir. 28. dec. 2021 kl. 08.36 skrev JvanKatwijk ***@***.*** > >: > > > the windows installer in the releases section does not work on W11? > > > > Op ma 27 dec. 2021 om 22:54 schreef Ferrari2 ***@***.***>: > > > > > Hi > > > Would it be possible to have a Windows 11 "setup.exe" file of the > > > Qt-DAB-4.11 please. > > > Best regards > > > Bjarke > > > > > > — > > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > > < > > > #231 (comment) > > >, > > > or unsubscribe > > > < > > > https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQFCTOMPRWXBAS4YGATUTDOBXANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ > > > > > > . > > > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > > > < > > > https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675 > > > > > > or Android > > > < > > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub > > >. > > > > > > You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: > > > ***@***.***> > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jan van Katwijk > > > > — > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > < > #231 (comment) > >, > > or unsubscribe > > < > https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACADFE24CZLRJ7VPD55KO7TUTFSI3ANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ > > > > . > > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > > < > https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675 > > > > or Android > > < > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub > >. > > > > You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: > > ***@***.***> > > > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > < #231 (comment) >, > or unsubscribe > < https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQBOT636F2B56YUTDITUTHHUPANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ > > . > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > < https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675 > > or Android > < https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub >. > > You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: > ***@***.***> > -- Jan van Katwijk — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACADFE6UNTB4WQDL7OE4W7LUTHIH7ANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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JvanKatwijk · 2021-12-28T16:39:48Z

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Dec 28, 2021
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OK, have fun - and feel free to comment best jan Op di 28 dec. 2021 om 17:16 schreef Ferrari2 ***@***.***>:

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Hi again Jan I finally got it - under "Release Build". Fine business and thank you for the guidance :-) I would like to thank you so much for the very nice piece of software my friend. Happy new year to you and your Bjarke [image: image.png] Den tir. 28. dec. 2021 kl. 16.17 skrev JvanKatwijk ***@***.*** >: > there is an windows setup file in the releases section > https://github.com/JvanKatwijk/qt-dab/releases > > setup-qt-dab-4.11.exe or 4.12 (the latter one is experimental) > > Op di 28 dec. 2021 om 16:12 schreef Ferrari2 ***@***.***>: > > > Hi Jan > > > > I am struggling with Xming, as the free old version from 2017 won't run > on > > my Windows 11... > > > > Would it be possible to have a .exe setup file rather than a .AppImage > file > > for Windows 11 please? > > > > Best regards > > Bjarke > > > > Den tir. 28. dec. 2021 kl. 08.36 skrev JvanKatwijk ***@***.*** > > >: > > > > > the windows installer in the releases section does not work on W11? > > > > > > Op ma 27 dec. 2021 om 22:54 schreef Ferrari2 ***@***.***>: > > > > > > > Hi > > > > Would it be possible to have a Windows 11 "setup.exe" file of the > > > > Qt-DAB-4.11 please. > > > > Best regards > > > > Bjarke > > > > > > > > — > > > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > > > < > > > > > > #231 (comment) > > > >, > > > > or unsubscribe > > > > < > > > > > > https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQFCTOMPRWXBAS4YGATUTDOBXANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ > > > > > > > > . > > > > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > > > > < > > > > > > https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675 > > > > > > > > or Android > > > > < > > > > > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub > > > >. > > > > > > > > You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: > > > > ***@***.***> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jan van Katwijk > > > > > > — > > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > > < > > > #231 (comment) > > >, > > > or unsubscribe > > > < > > > https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACADFE24CZLRJ7VPD55KO7TUTFSI3ANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ > > > > > > . > > > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > > > < > > > https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675 > > > > > > or Android > > > < > > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub > > >. > > > > > > You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: > > > ***@***.***> > > > > > > > — > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > < > #231 (comment) > >, > > or unsubscribe > > < > https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQBOT636F2B56YUTDITUTHHUPANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ > > > > . > > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > > < > https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675 > > > > or Android > > < > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub > >. > > > > You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: > > ***@***.***> > > > > > -- > Jan van Katwijk > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > < #231 (comment) >, > or unsubscribe > < https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACADFE6UNTB4WQDL7OE4W7LUTHIH7ANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ > > . > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > < https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675 > > or Android > < https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub >. > > You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: > ***@***.***> > — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQFSSFQB3ENA5JX4ICTUTHPE7ANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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Teddyz · 2022-02-13T00:38:27Z

Teddyz
Feb 13, 2022

This is a great software. Works very good with my RSP1A.
Would it be difficult to add an option to save the fic stream?

Are the MOT pictures in the audio stream or in a separate data stream? Could info about them be included in the GUI?

Thanks!

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andimik Feb 18, 2022

@Teddyz

Dear Dick, maybe you have a look into https://github.com/AlbrechtL/welle.io#examples

Welle-cli can extract the fic stream, even on its webinterface ( http://[ip]:[port]/fic )

Thanks for your great analyzing tool, I've uploaded several files already in the past :-)

JvanKatwijk · 2022-02-13T19:38:47Z

JvanKatwijk
Feb 13, 2022
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Dear Dick MOT pictures - station labels as shown - are encoded in the audio stream The FIC stream is continuously transmitted, can you be more specific? Saving the blocks would be easy, but it all depends what you want to do with it The result of the scan shows most aspects of the current ensemble best jan Op zo 13 feb. 2022 om 01:38 schreef Dick ***@***.***>:

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This is a great software. Works very good with my RSP1A. Would it be difficult to add an option to save the fic stream? Are the MOT pictures in the audio stream or in a separate data stream? Could info about them be included in the GUI? Thanks! — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQEK2K2YMFKQZCRHOT3U234Q5ANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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Teddyz Feb 16, 2022

The main reason that I want the FIC data is that I am curious on the inner workings of DAB. Many years ago I wrote a decoder for fic (binary data saved with checksum, so 32B per message) My decoder can be found on www.telder.com/fic but there are other decoders with much better hmi. The same file format is used by Andreas Gsinn DAB Player, but the hardware used for that software does not have the sensitivity that allows me to receive any DAB ensembles where I live.

A possibility to save MOT objects and even the MSC streams for data services would be a great way to learn more about what is transmitted but not intended for our ears.

Thanks!

JvanKatwijk · 2022-02-17T09:48:23Z

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FIC data is transmitted in blocks 2..4 of the DABframe, 4 FIC bloks spread over 3 DAB blocks, after processing there are per FIC 768 bits, Bits are processed per 256. So, the next question is then: are you interested in the "raw" data, i.e. the 3 DAB blocks, the 4 FIC blocks or the 256 bit sized FIB blocks These latter blocks are - in Qt-DAB passed on to the fib decoder Btw, did you ever had a look at the ETI format, best jan Op wo 16 feb. 2022 om 22:19 schreef Dick ***@***.***>:

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The main reason that I want the FIC data is that I am curious on the inner workings of DAB. Many years ago I wrote a decoder for fic (binary data saved with checksum, so 32B per message) My decoder can be found on www.telder.com/fic but there are other decoders with much better hmi. The same file format is used by Andreas Gsinn DAB Player, but the hardware used for that software does not have the sensitivity that allows me to receive any DAB ensembles where I live. A possibility to save MOT objects and even the MSC streams for data services would be a great way to learn more about what is transmitted but not intended for our ears. Thanks! — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQGWOGTCEQX7YQAHYZ3U3QIE5ANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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Teddyz Feb 21, 2022

My interest is in the 256 bit FIB blocks. I will then upload it as a file to my decoder.

I have never looked at ETI as a protocol. To me ETI was just the signal in a coaxial cable that made the modulator happy. :)
I was closer to decoding the RDI signal (from a Philips DAB 752 receiver), but before even starting that project I found the FIC export from DAB Player software.

JvanKatwijk · 2022-02-19T18:20:04Z

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It obviously all depends what you want to see in the FIC. Of course there is the - more or less - static binding of services -> subchannels, that can be seen in e.g. the result of the scanner and probably lots of other software. One of the static things that always interests me is to see whether or not there are subchannels, not (directly) bound to a service More interesting parts are of course things as "signals", i.e. the change in configuration and the alarms So if you can specify in more detail what you are looking for, we can see ehat can be done best jan Op vr 18 feb. 2022 om 10:38 schreef andimik ***@***.***>:

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@Teddyz <https://github.com/Teddyz> Dear Dick, maybe you have a look into https://github.com/AlbrechtL/welle.io#examples Welle-cli can extract the fic stream, even on its webinterface ( http://[ip]:[port]/fic ) Thanks for your great analyzing tool, I've uploaded several files already in the past :-) — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQDR4B4TPHQ4B3VU77TU3YHQTANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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Teddyz Feb 21, 2022

What I look for in the FIC are things that can make a receiver go wrong. I once had a receiver that failed to play a low bitrate mono service. Reconfigurations where current service disappears. How is that handled? Reconfigurations and linking DAB-DAB while driving is of interest (want to make a testcase to prove successful linking between services with different SIDs, which is not so easy to find by chance).

Announcements are also of interest. Here could Qt-DAB be very helpful and show a log of when/what happened in FIG 0/19, 0/25, 026 (as examples). But that feature would probably excite very few people, but I would love it. :)

What I most look for is a possibility to export the FIC-stream. I hope that would be fairly simple to implement,

Thanks,
/Dick

JvanKatwijk · 2022-02-22T07:57:25Z

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OK Ijf you run Linux and can build/compile something I'll make a command line version based on the dab-cmdline programs If not, I'll build a qt-dab version with an additional button One question: do you need the separate 256 bit block sparated by a marker or so in a file? Op di 22 feb. 2022 om 00:30 schreef Dick ***@***.***>:

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What I look for in the FIC are things that can make a receiver go wrong. I once had a receiver that failed to play a low bitrate mono service. Reconfigurations where current service disappears. How is that handled? Reconfigurations and linking DAB-DAB while driving is of interest (want to make a testcase to prove successful linking between services with different SIDs, which is not so easy to find by chance). Announcements are also of interest. Here could Qt-DAB be very helpful and show a log of when/what happened in FIG 0/19, 0/25, 026 (as examples). But that feature would probably excite very few people, but I would love it. :) What I most look for is a possibility to export the FIC-stream. I hope that would be fairly simple to implement, Thanks, /Dick — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQEBVXKKW4LF6I2ZZZLU4LDJVANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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JvanKatwijk · 2022-02-22T09:21:33Z

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more questions a. do you want the 256 bit blocks separated by e.g. a marker and the fib number (0 .. 11); b. do you want the 256 bit blocks one bit per byte or packed Whatever you choose, it will only take a few lines of code Op di 22 feb. 2022 om 08:57 schreef jan van katwijk ***@***.***

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: OK Ijf you run Linux and can build/compile something I'll make a command line version based on the dab-cmdline programs If not, I'll build a qt-dab version with an additional button One question: do you need the separate 256 bit block sparated by a marker or so in a file? Op di 22 feb. 2022 om 00:30 schreef Dick ***@***.***>: > What I look for in the FIC are things that can make a receiver go wrong. > I once had a receiver that failed to play a low bitrate mono service. > Reconfigurations where current service disappears. How is that handled? > Reconfigurations and linking DAB-DAB while driving is of interest (want to > make a testcase to prove successful linking between services with different > SIDs, which is not so easy to find by chance). > > Announcements are also of interest. Here could Qt-DAB be very helpful and > show a log of when/what happened in FIG 0/19, 0/25, 026 (as examples). But > that feature would probably excite very few people, but I would love it. :) > > What I most look for is a possibility to export the FIC-stream. I hope > that would be fairly simple to implement, > > Thanks, > /Dick > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#231 (reply in thread)>, > or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQEBVXKKW4LF6I2ZZZLU4LDJVANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> > . > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> > or Android > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. > > You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: > ***@***.***> > -- Jan van Katwijk

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Teddyz Feb 22, 2022

The format I want is just 32 bytes for each FIB. I uploaded an example here: www.telder.com/bilder/11B_DRS_BW_2014-10-27_211104.zip
No need to make sure the file starts with the first byte of a FIB. The file needs to be byte-aligned, but not 32 byte-aligned..

I would of course prefer to use the GUI. No need to hurry, I am happy if it can be integrated in a future release.

Thanks!

JvanKatwijk · 2022-02-23T17:54:24Z

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Feb 23, 2022
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I am assuming you are running Linux, the attached link is to a preliminary version which contains - in a special way - the requested feature Rather than changing the GUI I added a "ficDump" command to the list of schedulable operations. If the operation is scheduled it will dump the FIC bits, byte aligned, into a file with a name composed from the channel name, the date and the extension ".fic" Note: a. the dump will be written to a file, with the aforementioned name cconstruction in the "savedir" environment, usually the home directory b. dumping is stopped by (a) a next occurrence of the "ficDump" command in the schedule list, but also by changing the channel. Since it is a rather special option, with probably a single user, it seemed for the time being best not to change the GUI (bit allow the functionality to be used indirectly) Since it is a minor change to the sources, it will remain in the sourcetree. As soon as 4.35 is suffixciently stable the 4.35 sources will be on githib best jan https://www.dropbox.com/s/4euwm7jb5z127go/Qt_DAB-x86_64-4.3.AppImage?dl=0 Op di 22 feb. 2022 om 22:48 schreef Dick ***@***.***>:

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The format I want is just 32 bytes for each FIB. I uploaded an example here: www.telder.com/bilder/11B_DRS_BW_2014-10-27_211104.zip No need to make sure the file starts with the first byte of a FIB. The file needs to be byte-aligned, but not 32 byte-aligned.. I would of course prefer to use the GUI. No need to hurry, I am happy if it can be integrated in a future release. Thanks! — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#231 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQCYX5V3QTWITWKQL33U4QADFANCNFSM5BLFZKNQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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Teddyz Feb 28, 2022

Thanks! I got Qt-DAB working on Linux Mint. I had to manually remove 20dB attenuation the first time I started the program, after that the reception worked.

To start the recording using the scheduler is fine. The fic-stream seems to be in another format than my script expected. I cannot yet say what differs, I need to look into the standards to be able to say more.

JvanKatwijk · 2022-03-01T09:10:30Z

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I shift the bits right in, see the code fragment, each segment of 256 bits is translated to 32 bytes, segments of 256 bytes are written out for (int j = 0; j < 32; j ++) { int bufferP = ficPointer + j; ficBuffer [bufferP] = 0; for (int k = 0; k < 8; k ++) { ficBuffer [bufferP] <<= 1; ficBuffer [bufferP] |= p [8 * j + k]; } } ficPointer += 32; if (ficPointer >= 256) { ficLocker. lock (); if (ficDumpPointer != nullptr) fwrite (ficBuffer, 1, 256, ficDumpPointer); ficLocker. unlock (); ficPointer = 0; } best jan Op ma 28 feb. 2022 om 23:29 schreef Dick ***@***.***>:

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